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Is my crank on the way out?? 8 years 11 months ago #4449

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Hi all,
I was doing a top end on my crono and noticed that around the big end there's some heat build up on the crank arms. The pattern seems to emanate from the rod as opposed to more centralized heat marks as sometimes used by a factory during assembly. I could be wrong here, though.
Also, the rod movement gets very sticky or tight feeling as I wiggled it around the area of the heat marks. It's nice and free in the area it's sitting in in the picture but bring the rod back towards the heated area and it binds.
This doesn't seem good to me and I need some insight.

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Re: Is my crank on the way out?? 8 years 11 months ago #4450

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Hi cal,
i am not familiar with Gilera 2T cranks, but with pressed together cranks it is quite common for the fly wheels to be localy gas heated before pressing the big end with the rod attached into the crank webs this would give a localised heat mark the area where the rod sits would polish in use and the 2 outer unused bits may feel a bit tighter, if the centre bit is smooth turning withour excess free play it should be good to use.
John

Re: Is my crank on the way out?? 8 years 11 months ago #4470

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Heh Cal,

The crank pin is a big weak point on these engines!!! You say, 'The rod movement gets very sticky or tight feeling'. This should not be the case, if I was you I'd be on the phone to uncle Bob asking him for a big end repair kit which includes the crank pin, bearing and thrust washers. Get the engine out and have a look, the sticky tight feeling is definitely enough for alarm bells.

The development of these engines goes back a long way with revs and power increasing gradually and as far as I know the crank pin only got beefed up on the GFR. In my experience on the Apache and Crono series engines the big end bearing starts to pick up on the crank pin at quite low mileages. By the time the big end starts knocking microscopic bits of the crank pin have been thrown around the engine accelerating wear and causing scoring. That's what happened on my Apache and I've had it from new and always run in on quality two stroke oil. It started to knock at below 12000 miles. You'll probably be able a reuse the crank rod but I chose to renew mine due to heat discoloration around the big end. Having said that I don't think this problem would cause the discoloration of the crank that I see in your picture.

I've just re-built two other engines (one Crono and one Apache) and on both of them the crank pins were picking up!! If I knew how to upload pictures I'd stick them up for you to see the horrors that could be lurking in your big end.

Had my cranks rebuilt by Piston Broke in Bristol.

Good luck,
Leigh
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